"I am currently studying a very sophisticated system of self-defense,
which I enjoy tremendously. My year of KCD has certainly influenced
the way I synthesize new principles into my overall understanding. Still, I
have a question, which I believe may be relevant to many of your students
who study other martial arts but try to incorporate and adhere to
KCD principles.

The situation:
In my school, we have been spending the last month or so on barehanded
defenses against some basic static knife attacks that represent certain
mugging scenarios. In these situations we assume that the opponent
seeks compliance to his or her demands and uses a knife as motivation.
This is not an opponent who rushes in, slashing and stabbing, but
rather an opponent who wants something first. Of course, after he or
she gains compliance, the (as you say) spit may hit the fan.

Some Specifics:
The two scenarios we looked at during the last two classes was an
opponent holding a knife on either SIDE of the neck. How he or she got
in that position was acknowledged to be somewhat artificial and was
presented for pedagogy rather than reality. It was agreed upon that any
sudden move would trigger the opponent to SLASH the defenders neck.

Gaining Control:
The first step in defending against both "attacks" was to "gain control
of the knife" by grabbing it and pushing it away from the neck. We were
taught how to do this fast, in balance, and without telegraphy. This
part seemed simple enough and logical. It is the next part that
motivates my question:

The Suggestion:
The next part of both defenses was to give the opponent a small
"suggestion." The concept behind the "suggestion" is that, according to
this martial belief system if the opponent feels a pull, then he will
respond by pulling back in the opposite direction. Similarly, if he
feels a push, he will respond with a push in the opposite direction. I
would be willing to say that this principle is fundamental to a large
component of the current system that I am studying. Moreover, the
instructors of this system refer to this behavior as "human nature."
(Any KCD practitioner would clearly recognize that a KCD or Tai Chi
practitioner should be immune to this aspect of "human nature" by
virtue of his or her training.)

The Question:
Do you believe this principle of human nature is an appropriate
foundation upon which to base these PARTICULAR knife defenses?
Specifically, what concerns me is that not only do these defenses
require tactile sensitivity but they also require initiating the
exchange with one of theses suggestions. Very complicated. Suppose the
opponent doesn't take the suggestion? What then? Are there any
alternative approaches that you would recommend?


Your question is an interesting one. I believe that you have
partially answered your own question by stating that a KCDor a Tai Chi

practitioner would not "naturally" cooperate. This may be true of anyone.

Remember that the person who may attempt to control you with an edged

weapon may be under the influence of drugs which can short circuit the

"normal" response of an individual. I don't believe that using a
technique that is dependent on interpreting the next move of an armed

attacker is the best thing to depend upon. Just as in KCD we don't

depend on touching the opponent while kicking to establish balance it is the

same for nearly all motion of a combative nature.

Yes if the person does not comply properly with your expected response then,

if it is not too late, you could possibly go onto plan B per se. The main thing

to keep in mind with edged weapon training is that you get off line while

simultaneously striking a target that will incapacitate the assailant. If you can

actually get the blade off line while grabbing the hand and controlling it while

either disarming the attacker or again simultaneously disabling him you can

do so. Using dropping force while executing some of  the take aways along

with striking has been, in my opinion, the most effective method of
dealing with the various ways an assailant will attempt to control you

with a blade.

I am happy to see that you are using your reasoning to work out some

of the possible problems that can happen in the street. Don't forget the

fact that all attacks or control techniques have inherent dynamic factors

that cannot always be anticipated.

Good luck, JP


I was training in systema but now train in silat, I have
kept some of the exercises and drills from Systema, how would KCD help
me with silat and how effective is silat.


Silat and Systema are both potentially all depends on
your instructor. Systema is great for looseness and improvisation and Silat
has great infighting methods. KCD can help make all the moves from Silat
flow together without thought, because in KCD we have no techniques

and you have to learn to create them immediately as you need them but

consistent with laws of physics and combat efficiency. KCD also

develops Sensitivity which is essential for reading your opponent's energy

and adapting.

--Sent to us by Tiff (thanks!)
Please read this, a new twist on kidnapping, a very
smart survivor. 
About a month ago there was a woman standing by the
mall entrance passing out flyers to all the women
going in. The woman had written the
flyer herself to tell about an experience she had,
so that she might warn other women.

The previous day, this woman had finished shopping, went out to
her car and discovered that she had a flat. She got
the jack out of the trunk and began to change the
flat. A nice man dressed in business suit and
carrying a briefcase walked up to her and said, "I
noticed you're changing a flat tire. Would you u
like me to take care of it for you?" The woman was
grateful for his offer and accepted his help. They
chatted amiably while the man changed the flat, and
then put the flat tire and the jack in the trunk,
shut it and dusted his hands off. 

The woman thanked him profusely, and as she was
about to get in her car, the man told her that he
left his car around on the other side of the mall,
and asked if she would mind giving him a lift to his
car. She was a little surprised and she asked him
why his car was on other side. He explained that he had seen an
old friend in the mall
that he hadn't seen for some time and they had a
bite to eat and visited for a while he got turned
around in the mall and left through the wrong exit,

and now he was running late and his car was clear
around on the other side of the mall. 

The woman hated to tell him "no" because he had just
rescued her from having to change her flat tire all
by herself, but she felt uneasy. Then she remembered
seeing the man put his briefcase in her trunk before
shutting it and before he asked her for a ride to
his car. She told him that she'd be happy to drive him around to his car,
but she just remembered one last thing she needed to
buy. She said she would only be a few minutes; he
could sit down in her car and wait for her; she
would be as quick as she could be. She hurried into
the mall, and told a security
guard what had happened; the guard came out to her car with her,
but the man had left. They opened the trunk, took
out his locked briefcase and took it down to
the police station. The police opened it (ostensibly
to look for ID so they could return it to the man).
What they found was rope, duct tape, and knives.
When the police checked her "flat" tire, there was
nothing wrong with it; the air had simply been let
out. It was obvious what the man's intention was,
and obvious that he had carefully thought it out in
advance. The woman was blessed to have escaped harm.

How much worse it would have been if she had
children with her and had them wait in the car while
the man fixed the tire, or if she had a baby
strapped into a car seat? Or i f she'd gone against
her judgment and given him a lift?
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